Recall also what happens when you exit Limbo. Recall that the movie begins and ends with Cobb interacting with Saito in a dream world. In both cases, Cobb is visiting Saito in a grand house on a cliff overlooking the ocean. It is here, at the end of the film, that Cobb tries to convince Saito to shoot himself to wake himself up. What happened while you were watching the spinning top? So, did Saito and Cobb make it back to the real world after exiting Limbo?
Or did they, like Fischer and Ariadne, just go one layer up, to what was the snow fortress dream that is now empty? We see them wake up on an apartment floor, but Cobb said that they entered Limbo by experimenting with dreams within dreams.
Show 1 more comment. Nathaniel Brown Nathaniel Brown 86 6 6 bronze badges. If that is the case, the architect doesn't know that the top needs to keep spinning forever, yet it does in a dream, who is responsible for that then? To the first part, yes the architect would be responsible for the behavior of the totem.
But to the 2nd part, I am confused again, I have no idea who is responsible for that. It's like a little paradox Nolan seems to have allowed into the otherwise flawless system of the dreams. Yeah, it really is. As per the Inception Wiki emphasis mine : A Totem is an object that is used to test if oneself is in one's own reality dream or non-dream and not in another person's dream. Cobb is never the dreamer in any of the levels. Yet his totem keeps spinning for ever. A dreamer would normally decide that the top would stop spinning after some time.
But that is not the case. For all the other totems, what you said makes perfect sense, not for the top though. Tivep I'm not actually sure that we ever see the top spin continuously while in Cobb's possession, but the film never offers an explanation for this in any case.
Could be for a number of reasons. One possibility is that Cobb is hijacking the top to make it keep spinning similar to the way Eames can still alter his own appearance in order to forge while in someone else's dream in order to check if he is in a dream or reality. Its worth noting that while this appears to be how Cobb uses the top, it is not the intended purpose of the totem see quote form my answer.
Tivep Another possibility is that the dreamer in each case we see in the film ignores the top as part of Cob himself, which makes it uninfluenced by them, thus allowing it to 'ignore' gravity. Another possibility is that since Cobb keeps playing with and talking about his totem, everyone on the team knows how it works and can't help but make it behave in a manner that suggests 'dream' while dreaming. If hijacking was a possibility then the totem's usefulness would diminish rapidly.
Everyone would end up hijacking their respective totems in dreams and would not be able to validate their realities. I believe this is a bit of an unexplained plothole in the film. Given the rule for a totem is that only that person should know how it behaves, it is unlikely that the person who is enforcing the rule will allow people to know about his totem.
Tivep It seems to be something Cobb is doing consciously, which most would avoid both to keep their sanity and to avoid triggering the dreamers subconscious to attack them. Gravity likely has little to do with the totems. Again, using Arthur's die as an example, he doesn't have to roll it to know it doesn't have the same weight and balance. From the Inception Wiki : A Totem is an object that is used to test if oneself is in one's own reality dream or non-dream and not in another person's dream.
In the movie, Arthur tells Ariadne: "I can't let you touch it, that would defeat the purpose. Community Bot 1. Thanks for a reply. However, it is the difference between how a totem works in the real and dream world that matters. To perhaps get to my answer, the first question we could tackle is - how does Cobb's totem keep spinning in a dream? Who is responsible for this? Cobb or the architect?
I placed a small edit at the bottom of my answer. The architect does. But they do by only knowing how it looks, not by how it behaves in the real world. My problem exactly, so the architect is not supposed to know how a totem feels like or behaves in the real world.
Edit Profile. Subscribe Now. Your Subscription Plan Cancel Subscription. Home India News Entertainment. HT Insight. My Account. Sign in. Sign out. Any ordinary object which has been in some way modified to affect its balance, weight, or feel will work as a totem. In order to protect its integrity, only the totem's owner should ever handle it. In that way, the owner is able to tell whether or not they are in someone else's dream. In the owner's own dream world, the totem will feel correct.
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